Ah, Mac, we are talking about two seperate entities then. =) While I am just talking about the creative process and the end result it produces, you are talking about, for a lack of a better word/phrase "Works of Art". Something may be artistic, but not be a "Work of Art". Is that the gist of what you are saying? Even so, it is still based upon opinions of what the viewer likes or dislikes. I mean, Picasso is considered to be one of the "Masters", but I honestly cannot stand his work. I think the debate over what is art is really fruitless. It all boils down to what an individual prefers to see. Either way, if my work never is seen or remembered, it's all good. I enjoyed making it, er...starting it, and that is all that really matters in the end IMO. =)