Given the success that Pixar and PDI Dreamworks have had with distinctively NON-realistic 3D work, it's hard to justify the idea that "the whole point" of 3D graphic generation is "realism". I prefer stylized art. I always have. Peter Max, Roger Dean, the Brothers Hildebrandt, these are the people who really inspire me. I couldn't care less about "photorealistic" textures and so forth. Just doesn't impress me or appeal to me. I also happen to be one of those people who think that Poser isn't the best tool to try to do "realistic" renders in, and attempts at it, while an interesting challenge, are sort of like trying to win the Indy 500 in a Mercedes sedan. Nothing wrong with Mercedes sedans, but that's not what they're designed to do and it's pretty hard to do it successfully. I'm NOT going to get into the whole "is it art" debate. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. And my t-shirt says, "Who CARES?!" If it fulfills its purpose (whatever that purpose may be), then it's fine, IMHO. Arguing about whether or not it "qualifies" to be or not be anything or nothing is just a big waste of neurotransmitters. bonni

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