Dreamspinner: yes I would be interested :O) and if you have not posted it yet I would be happy to post it at SS. The stretching is due tomy lack of uvmapping .obj file successfuly. Email it to me at snazzeroo@hotmail.com please. Krel: you can reach me at the above email I would be happy to discuss any such subject. glad to see it can be useful. btw I just purchaced VQ magazine and got some great new ideas. so with some spare time i will be adding a few new bikes soon. Sprout :O) RIDE ON!