"Lastly is your version of Poser valid? why is there a Metacreatiions tag in your listing? That was so many years ago???" Ehmm Phoenix my poser is very valid and the path to it has Metacreations in it. Does this make me look suspicious too? My copy of poser came from Metacreations, My copy of Poser Pro pack as well, but it is still under Metacreations. All the patches have been applied and guess what it's still under Metacreations. That does NOT look suspicious.