"My." Equate people with historical figures who repressed the opinion of others to get their way, "and they sure get upset fast." You're right. It was wrong of me to retaliate in kind and stoop to name calling. So Joey is guilty of 2 TOS violations to my one. And we'll look at the further evidence he's provided. "Screw you and your demands for a civil tone." Screw demands for a CIVIL TONE? Can there be anything more reasonable than a DEMAND for a civil tone? This is unquestionable a decree on Joey's part that he refuses to discuss things in a civil tone. At this point I have to assume that he is doing nothing but trolling. "When you've learned some manners, boy, talk to me again." Ironic statement from one who started the name calling and personal attacks. As to SamTherapy, well, I do apologize for being goaded into such a response. I'm sorry you were offended enough to reply. I ask that you to re-read my other posts and honestly evaluate if you can at least understand my point of view on the subject. You don't have to agree with me, but I do ask that you try to see my point of view. I have no problem with some one disagreeing with me. It's telling ME to "shut up" because THEY don't agree that truly gets my ire. If some one can't defend your position then it has no merit.