Don't apply that to me. Look at my post 30 above, I did exactly what you ask, said "...believe me, I am well aware that one can make mistakes". I certainly have no reason to be ashamed. Please retract your criticism in my case. "perfect demigods of Poserdom" you say. Sarcastic and very pleasant. Did I ever, anywhere in this thread come on this way? Did I act meanly? No. I don't like coming in the line of fire when I really think I've behaved decently. I have also talked to wishmaster privately - we're getting along fine, thank you. :] Fish