(Blink, blink) Oh,no! You have the wrong idea completely (kicks dismembered corpse under the handy drape in the corner)! Actually, this is probably one of the most laid back forums at Rosity. I used to feel the same way....then I made the mistake of finding www.belino.net and seeing just what kind of ability Vue and Phoul possess. And when you consider that he only uses Vue and Poser, with no postwork (aside from compositing and sound work).... Just be warned. If you have never been to Phoul's site, you go at the danger of -wanting- to make things move.... You Have Been Warned. And the Mover animation system is actually rather easy to use. Particularly compared to something like you would find under the hood of Maya or Max. And Poser's isn't so much complicated, as....obscure. Once you go through a few tutorials by the likes of PhilC and Little Dragon, and find explanations clearer than the manual, it does start to make sense. Nothing can speed up the tedium of tweaking, but it can be made interesting...