Getting a second change isn't what i'm used to, sorry. Of course, if you do get a second or third try, this is way better than cropping. In some other cases, postwork could get it better, but you're right that if a pic just isn't good enough, no postwork can save it. About PSP: hey, Potatoshop is just a tool. Someone who really knows how to use PSP will be able to do anything 99.9% of all PS-user will ever do. It's the artist working with this tool, not the tool itself, doing wonders (even if some PS-freak will tell you something else). :)) Do you mind if i play somewhat with that pic of yours? Have a nice evening ... time to go to bed for me. :-)