what id be more interested in knowing is why certain websites remain in the top positions yet barely have any content, and havent been updated in a year. how exactly is it that they are getting so much traffic throughput to RO? (if indeed they are). do new people keep loading those same exact pages over and over again every day, then clicking the rosity referrer link? seems doubtful... are you sure theres a script that checks offsite webring referrals for unique IP addresses? or is this like the old Hot20 where people could sit there clicking their own image several hundred times and raise their view count? the whole thing just seems suspicious and improbable to me, given some of the sites that have been up there - unmoving - in the exact same position for the last two years. cheers, -gabriel