Thanks Scott. I think we may be getting somewhere. I checked to make sure the turkey has all the parts you listed, and it does not have a hip. The thighs are connected directly to the abdomen. I did want to use it with the walk path, but I haven't been able to get it to work with the walk designer at all. Possibly because it does not have a hip? Do you know if there is a way to work around it, or create a hip for it without it acting really bizare? Do you know if I can rename the abdomen, or will the rest of it not work (ie the wings, neck and head)? Thanks for your help. whisper