you have to decode.... with the same patched object file... that was used to encode it with mover... i recently reformatted... and went through that....trust me i found out the hard way... if the file was encoded on the original object... mover cannot decode with the patched one... and vice versa.... so i have a junkfile folder in my geometries folder with the original P4NW and newhip3 obj and all that jazz...as well as various patched ones for just that reason