i hate interrupting like this nilla, think raven went to sleep over there... just trying to help, you can tell me to butt out if you like & i won't look at the ebots as far as the frame... it's not... in PSP, go to--> image--> add borders, use you color palettes... this looks like 2 symmetric pixels in a lavender & several more in black around that, more at the bottom... then add your font as another layer on the black why do i feel i should just shut up...