Well, it's all confusing to me. I'm an IT person by trade (though I won't claim to be a network genius). Maybe everyone else understands stuff that I don't so I'll just post the things that are running through my mind: (1) Just how DOES someone manipulate their position on the ring (whatever that is...I've seen it but, honestly, I've never clicked on it to see what it does)? I can understand how people can "rig" contests (by getting their friends to vote for their stuff under different IDs) but I have no idea how someone can manipulate hits (and other related data). (2) Just what does one gain by being #2 on this webring thing anyway? Hits are hits but sales, which, it seems, are the most important thing of all. Does being #2 on the ring mean if I click it I go there (Rendervisions) before anyone else's site? I can tell you I went to Rendervisions because of Lady Cherry's reply to my search for anime products. That's how I became a member. And I've been back many times looking at other things. (3) Renderosity doesn't seem like the site to get pi$$ed at this sort of thing. I'm assuming they are #1 on this ring thing. Makes me wonder if other sites complained somehow (about being reduced to #3 and #4...etc.) After all, Renderosity allows just about every site I know of to advertise their stuff here in the Product Forum. If they were upset about someone (site) getting too popular, wouldn't they cut out all the advertising for all the other sites? Confusing to me. (4) I can truthfully admit to removing items from my wishlist here because I found the same item cheaper at other sites. And that's even considering that I might receive one of those 10% coupons from Renderosity that I have gotten in the past. So, if others are like me, they have done the same thing...upped hits on other sites because some products are priced better at other sites. I will also add here that the price on Lady Cherry's model was (is) an incredible bargain at $15. (I would have scooped up the Neftis doll...though that little cutie is STILL in my wishlist...by now if the price had been the same, for example) (5) As I said earlier, I started frequenting more sites as a result of technical problems that Renderosity was experiencing of late. Perhaps a lot of other people did, too. And, I noticed, a lot of other sites had some really good sales going as well as great pricing. So, again, if others are doing the same as I, THAT may account for the growth in "travel" to other sites...Rendervisions nothwithstanding. So, there are my thoughts...perhaps the thoughts of some others who don't really understand all that's going on. I'm not taking sides. All I know is I'll be visiting Rendervisions regularly due to what I discovered there and not because of its position on the "ring".