Hi :) Hmm .. went sleeping and today, i did miss my ebots .. sorry!! About that picture .. if you allow me to do so Brenda, i'll just copy this from my IM .. : ---------------------------------- What i've done with the other one? Ouch. I'm not working in a style, where i know exactly where to go and than look for a straight way to get there. At least not, if playing with pictures as i did with yours. Playing around and looking what's happening. Can't reproduce that in any step. But i do remember some elements: converting to lab-mode. Blurring a/b channels. Partially sharpening the brightness. (=reducing grain a little) converting to cmyk. Colour adjustment (lesser green, more red and yellow) back to rgb playing with some gradients to further adjust colours duplicating the image-layer, blurring the second layer, choose "soft light" as layer mode, reduced alpha to 40% (may be 20 or 60 too) duplicating the first layer a second time, moving it to the top. Layer mode "multiply negative", alpha 20% (getting it brighter) creating a 4th layer with some rendered random clouds. Layer mode is saturation (not for sure) About framing: i don't ever use pregenerated frames. Lovely option within PSP, but i feel, that each picture deserves his one frame, even if they look similar most of the time, but this is to let anyone see, from whom this pic is. But i have to admit, that sometimes there are some PS-styles in play, if it comes to titles ;) @Brenda: these sponsors here are only those merchants, selling their stuff at r'osity. At least, that's what i thought. Have a great evening. Playing an hour with PS and than, it's pillow-listening-time again. huggz Thomas