Well, I've already stated my POV, which is basically that competition is coming to the poser market and that it's in DAZ's interest to make DS work. I reckon this is all good. But, having said that, I've never rooted for the demise of CL. If CL go under, we're going to be a community without a software. Not only that, if CL go belly-up, we're back to square one vis-a-vis the competition. It would just mean that the monopoly passes from CL to DAZ. I hope both companies can continue to thrive, get their shit together and continue to give us products we can use and enjoy. This isn't a football match. Supporting one team doesn't mean you have to hate the other side. mac