Thanks everybody for the info, in the end Spybot and AdAware could not get everything, so I used some reg hacks and still there are some persistant little buggers out there, so, I will do a wiping of my HD and then a low level format(as recommended), then a full reformat(oh boy, just what I wanted to spend my Saturday doing)but I do agree with Rochr,........I hope these schumcks get what's coming to them one day ! Once again, thanks for all your attention, ...............TOM(sackrat).

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