Veritas, That promo pic was done in poser 4 with 8 lights and some minor retouching in photoshop. I know this because someone at the DAZ forun asked the same thing, ie. 'Was it done in DS?' I don't remember where the thread is (maybe the tech forum?), but whoever did the promo replied with the info above. If you look through the DAZ forum you'll find it within the last 2/3 days posts. Re Lightwave - I bet DAZ will be conducting polls on other software too in the future. I don't know for a fact, but I have a feeling they're trying to get an idea of which plug-ins for DS would be popular. The fact that LW is the 1st one may just be of no particular significance other than the fact that the DS interface is heavily based on Lightwave's own UI. Also, it's hardly surprising that so few people use LW. When you consider the amount of poser users who actually make models, it's pretty small. I reckon you'd see similar stats for 3d max. I'd say 90% of poser users don't make their own models. mac