Wasn't it Anton (PhoenixRising) who created the cool coils for Daz? Anyway that's beside the point, object22 didn't bother to mention which product it was s/he bought all his/her post said was "it didn't work & daz suck cause they didn't help me to make it work" I agree it's right for people to complain about something if it doesn't work. But then Daz aren't always the right people to ask for help, there's more people per square inch in the various poser forums who can help than in the whole of the Daz company. All it needed for object22 to get a fully working product was a small vital piece of information, exactly what bleedin product is s/he complaining about. One extra line in the original post & everything would have been solved within hours if not minutes, simple really ;)