tafkat, I hear what your say'n and I agree about "a few bad apples" senerio. I was comparing 'rosity's problem with GFX. GFX is a little worse IMHO. But the seeds of malcontent are also growing here. It's a good thing that you did bringing this to our attention. I know I wouldn't have known about it 'cause I really don't pay attention to the hot twenty here or the elite group over at GFX. But I do wind up reading about on the forums.