Hey Chuck, you are right, I am such a moderator slacker - just ask Guitta ;] Actually, we just finished Issue 8 of the Renderosity Magazine [which is a must read by the way] and it is so fun to have a week off to play at creating art :) After struggling for 2 years in Bryce and not being able to create anything, I am very excited and a little nervous about tackling Vue. But when I see all the amazing work that everyone has posted - I keep thinking maybe there is hope for me yet :) Hey Shadow didn't know you were a part of the great group! 2 much fun :) A special thanks "to everyone" for the kind and warm welcome :] ladynimue