When I had Poser 3 (not so long ago) I managed to get the lo res Vickie 1 that turns up free on magazine covers to work in it and some of her free clothes. It's always worth trying P4 files to see if they will work. You get a message saying this file is newer than expected but Poser will attempt to open it anyway. It often succeeds. If you save it back to the library it should load without a problem after that. Now a lot of people have Poser 5 I get this message in Poser 4 all the time :-) Quite a lot of props work in Poser 3 so there is more stuff out there that you can use than it seems. Shanna :-)