--------------------- The hybrid seems to have some attributes similar to compression, and if each frame is "compressed" or hybridized individually, there may well be some problems with dancing pixels growing in importance. --------------------- I think this is what the problem is. DOF is a post effect. I think b/c it applies to each frame individually rather than as a group, things get messed up. I also like your ideal of two renders..which sucks of course, but I will try and set one up tonight..that way I can blur stuff in AE. It will not be as nice b/c carrara takes the foreground object pixels into account, but carrara is so sloppy at it, it could be worth it. I think I need to start thinking of Carrara as a 3d after effects, and that may help me integrate my ideals better. Now hopefully I can make the alpha's work :) btw: Now that I think of alpha's...b/c I will be turning off the ground and sky, wont all the shadows disappear off the truck and other objects?