(Wow, it took a lot of searching through the archive to find this message trail again...) I wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions. I think this time out I will just turn up the temperature in the scene and use a tank-top. Maybe one of these days my own modeling skills will be up to the task (then I will need help with all the joints and parameters and stuff I keep reading about on the character creators forum!) Will post the picture when done. Troy