Hey, Bryce IS a "toy" app! (running away, back to the cinema4D forum real quick...) I got my copy of Cinema4D CE+ for the $100 special offer. And to be honest, while I really like it, for some things Bryce is better. (You never really appreciate the tree lab for one thing until you don't have it! for example) Now, I for one, (having taken no offence at all, am going to back and play with my toys (got a bryce render going). BTW, thanks BOOMER!

Pass no temptation lightly by, for one never knows when it may pass again!