woooz, this is turning into a long thread... I haven't read anything yet, but since we're on the subject... do you notice how my character in Vue is fatter than in poser?? for something reason, Vue does not take the morphs happily... it actuallym imported the morphs (mostly neck and waist morphs) as green balls that i had to delete to get that render... but it appears that the head morph disappeared when imported into vue... the girl's face is longer in poser, and rounder in Vue... or is it just me? plus, I think the teeth were removed when imported into vue, but it might be just the lighting... I'll read your posts with the utmost attention and then I'll reply again.