as for the shipping issue in this deal, i would view that as a poser problem and not vue, vue has pretty normal shipping fees its just curious labs that seems to charge alot more then whats healthy for us european citizens. i would have bought p5 through this deal if it wasnt for that 100$ shipping fee, thing is i dont need p5 but its a nice deal and i would have bought in just for fun if they would have had a 7$ ups shipping fee just like vue for eu. and if they have sorted it out by now im sorry :) havent checked it out since i got the first email and found out that the shipping for p5 would land @ 100$. Anyway, since u are thinking of buying vue4 just do it, nemas problemas there :)