Precursor to what I'll say here: I will use Poser and DS both. I like both companies and have many friends at both companies (although there are quite a few less people at CL now). If DS was not intended to be a competitor to Poser then why are none of the DAZ models being tested and supported in Poser5? It is DEFINATELY a competitor. DAZ is in an interesting position. They are creating a program that will compete with the program that they create figures for that are there bread and butter. Wow...I said that all in one sentence. :) DAZ would be shooting there own foot by bagging on the program that uses there figures. Im assuming that Poser content is how they are paying for the DS development. I also know how classy the people at DAZ are. They wouldn't bag on Poser just in the fact that they are great guys and gals. Ajax: "IF" the crowd turns nasty? I know it's a beta and all but wait until somebody with a short temper and a long trigger finger can't render. I think we will be seeing a lot of posts from a lot of people simply stating "It's a beta people". "Did you report the problem to DAZ"? "No" "Uh... That's why it's a beta". Ooops... Now you all have ME figured out. LOL ;) All the best, Joe www.3-AXIS.com P.S. Personally I think that DAZ Studio is going to rock out loud! I'll definitely use it. Im looking forward to some incredible things from the gang at DAZ.