(grins!) Aye, I was test-rendering a "simple" chalice I made in Rhino 3D, with TIR and TA on, and only one light, and it dawned on me that with a 3-day render for an 800x600 frame ALONE, that not all of the PC's in the world could ever animate such an artifact. Almost an exaggeration, but there's a reason it's so difficult to make things look photorealistic... My point is that technology grows exponentially, and Bryce 6 should ALSO grow exponentially. Props to pendulum for forwarding exactly this proposal! Honestly, I'm kind of excited now! Even if only half of the proposed features make it into production, we'll still be getting more of an upgrade than we did from 3 to 4, or 4 to 5...!