@flak: no, I don't think so... @vile: I could if you want, though since it's pretty much whited out, you could just brush over it. But I'll do another photo sometime, try to get rid of that glare and all. @Ang25: lol, thanks. I am having a turkey dinner tomorrow, but our family (mother, step father, brother, aunt, uncle)(yeah, we're a small family) traditionally go up to the white mountains for the four day vacation. Waterville valley to be exact. It's pretty cool.