It's only censorship if he wasn't allowed to post at all (and there is censorship on this site, and I think it is appropriate to set limits). But the figure can be posted and viewed by anyone who chooses to view it, which is not censorship. People have different levels of sensitivity. What appears discreetly covered to you may be be offensive to someone else (I'm not saying it is to me...I'm just saying it might be to someone). And some people find a person clothed more sexy than a dozen naked people sticking their butts in the air. It's all a matter of personal choice. You can find both on the galleries. I'd rather look at the clothed person than the naked derrieres. I should have that choice, shouldn't I? Otherwise you're not respecting me the way you demand that I respect you. And I do respect you. But I don't necessarily want to view the same images you do. That's okay. It's a choice. And I resent the idea that I shouldn't have that choice because my preference is prelabeled as censorship, and I'm labeled as a prude (as I have been in prior discussions) because it's easier to call names than it is to respect a difference in opinion. I'm not saying that all nudes or semi-nudes should not be posted. I'm saying, I want a sign to tell me that they are there because I have zero interest in them, and at my age, I really do know my own mind and interests. Maybe the answer is to have an all nude gallery, and all semi-nude gallery, and all almost semi-nude gallery, and a clothed gallery, and we can judge each one by the number of clothing worn and what each clothing covers. Perhaps that's more important than any other artistic concern. It would certainly clear out the Poser gallery if we did so. It seems simpler just to have a flag. You can see it. I don't have to. A simple switch. No big deal. The flip side of creeping censorship, is creeping "let it all hang out" itis...where someone uses the justification that one graphic is allowable and so more extreme graphic should also be allowed, and there it goes...before we know it, we have a twin of Renderotica and those of us who would like to create and view other art will have to go to another site. It's terribly hard to judge where the line should be drawn. You make it sound simple, but people will push and push and push the limits. And then you have to decide where it stops. Or if it's to stop at all. That's all. I'm more conservative than you are. So should I be forced to look at nudes because of that? I'm not asking you stop look at them because you're more liberal than I am. There seems something not fair about it being so one sided. I suppose the answer will be, well, just don't stay in the community. Leave and you won't have to look at the galleries. And I have to admit, I look at the galleries less and less. I guess that is an answer. And none of this is a comment on geogress or the graphics geogress produces, or speculation on geogress's intent in creating any particular graphic. The right to create and present a point of view is one that I defend. This is a completely general philosphical discussion on my part. With respect, Chuck, and I support your right to disagree with me. I take this time to wish you and those you love a most happy Thanksgiving. Take care. I'm gone. I've a dinner to go to.