wasp-stung-my-lip excuse for a character If you look at her nose and lips, I think she looks like a slightly tooned African woman, myself. I don't know why they haven't played up that angle. I think she looks a bit odd in Caucasian textures with the default face, but she looks quite nice with African skin tones. (Although, in pokeydot's pic above, for some reason she looks like a tooned Drew Barrymore to me.) Daz - spend more effort on Daz Studio! It's going to be released in beta next week. DW has been working on Sara completely independently - as far as I know, he has nothing to do with D|S, so this character hasn't been a distraction from D|S at all. Sara doesn't use V3's textures - I already compared the templates. I'm sure there will be a UTC plug-in for this soon enough. (DW didn't give an ETA for it.) Cheers!