Incidentally, I'm deducing that wolf359 is a Mac user and hasn't used Grouper (yes, it is free, but not for Mac). Without Grouper (and esp. the 1.4 version), THEN, yes, the importing business is a hassle. Someone in the Mac community really ought to have a go at making a Mac equivalent - fire up whatever the Mac equivalent of Visual Basic is (what is it? Is VB available for the Mac?) and run something off. Once you understand the concept, I don't think the programming issues are too demanding, and the original author over at Castironflamingo might be happy to advise.