Thanks for the clarification layback :) It didn't look to me like there was much in the way of change either (from reading posts of other users) which is why I never installed SR3. Initial load is slow and I recall reading in a previous post that SR3 didn't improve that. I don't find reload to be that bad right now. Since I mostly use Poser to "pose" for rendering in Vue 4.2, I will likely wait until there is a more significant upgrade released.