xantor, Using poser is pretty much like using a camera in one sense. A photographer can have the greatest model in the world, but that's NOT what makes a picture good. It's down to composition, lighting, angle, background, getting a reaction or facial expression, etc, plus a few technical choices, like film and things. In Poser, you have all the same elements. It's up to you to dress the model, pose her, light her, etc, etc. Composition and POV count just as much in poser as they do behind a camera. I don't see that drawing has much to do with it. I can't draw to save my life, but I CAN take a picture that's moderately good (modesty forbids me from saying more). LOL. mac