Grapefruit is the best description. . .Dirk got it! First-- look at the price of applications with a Cloth simulator, hair capabilities and procedural textures. There's a LOT there. Not all of it works, certainly not well enough for production use, but much of it does, and is far less expensive and better integrated than other solutions. For reference Digimation's Cloth plugin for 3D Studio costs as much as Poser I get a little annoyed sometimes with folks who badmouth what CL is delivering, a LOT of capability for not much money. I've also noticed a lot of folks trashing the hair, cloth, or materials applications without taking the trouble to really learn them. These are not trivial tasks, on any system. . .a lot of operator skill is required to get a hairstyle that looks, well, stylish. But the fact is that the capability is there . . .how much energy you choose to invest in using it is up to you.