I don't agree with the 'There-you-go-aren't-you-so-glad-you-joined-the-PC-club?' scenario. I get the distinct impression that DAZ are covering all their options very carefully, and I can list several reasons to back up my thinking. 1. Remember one thing - the public doesn't just mean non-PC members at DAZ or the crowd at Rosity. The public means the entire Planet Earth. DAZ are making damn sure they don't let a turkey loose on a planet-wide scale. It makes sense to keep everyone else waiting a few weeks, if they can nail down more bugs and errors. 2. And remember this too. DAZ have used it on their own systems - maybe 40 or 50 different configs? The PC members will up that number into the thousands and then the real truth will come out about hardware incompatibilities and weird system glitches. You want them to do that with the entire population of the world? 3. It's much easier to follow bug reports from a limited group of users, than from a huge mob, with everyone sending in mails, complaints, threats and penis enhancement offers with no rhyme or reason. 4. They spent a long time getting it ready, and I think that they're continuing with that same cautious policy. Let it out a bit at a time, get the general view, fix what needs to be fixed, then increase the user group. After all, it is a beta. You did know that, didn't you? mac