I have let it drop I only responded to your post because I knew you weren't aware of the stink he had caused to a few members here not long ago. I even went to his last image and gave some constructive critisism, which is what I always do when I think an image needs more work. The problem with the hot one is that it's supposed to be for the best the community has to offer and it really shouldn't be abused by people who have more friends and clones than good images. Perhaps it would be a better idea if the hot one no longer existed, because no matter where on this site these problems arise it always causes a bad taste which seems to hang around for far too long a time. Catlin