"because they are stupid enough to put that restriction on their freebies. " Why, oh, why does the same handful of totally ungrateful and selfish and egocentric consumers (I am not about to call them human, since they perhaps are not people at all, merely swine wallowing in the muck of their own greed-begotten collection of downloads) choose to disparage and insult the very people who are most generous with their offerings? You keep raising this issue. We keep telling you not to force the free stuff providers into giving away more rights than they already are. The copyrights are not yours to determine! If you do not build the item with your own time and sweat and skill, you do not have the right to declare the usage of that item. May I suggest that you pay for everything and avoid even going into the Free Stuff areas of these forums! That way you will be assured that absolutely everything you see is useful for your business and you won't waste your time or the bandwidth of those folks who provide for the hobbyists who are the vast majority of this community. No questions. No problems. No driving away folks from other cultures or ways of life. No insults. Everybody wins. Oh, you don't want to pay for the right to use it? Then may I suggest that you build it yourself! Carolly