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Hi all, thanks for sharing your experiences with Poser 5 and Poser 4.5 Hey raptorweb1, don't give up :) It took me over a year to get my Poser people untied - I had one heck of a time figuring out how to pose them :) I recently also removed Poser 5 from my computer [due to needing the space and not having the time to play with Poser 5 properly]. When you have more time, please do give it another chance - I know that is what I am going to do :) Since martian_manhunter, has had good luck with Poser 5, maybe the two of you could get together and exchange solutions to problems :) If nothing else, it will be a great way to meet a new Poser Friend :) Oh, and this is a great chance for everyone to get their Poser 5 questions answered by the experts - Please check out the Front Page Spotlight interview with Jeff Flower and Joe Grover - they produced **POSER 5 DEMYSTIFIED** Have a great evening everyone :) ladynimue