javl, Sorry for upsetting you, I guess I forgot to use this ':)' in my post. I also agree with you, the last thing we need is another buggy?, unstable? programe being rushed out with proper testing. (57.3MB service updates, just to get a reasonbly stable app. That's no joke to D/L on a 56k dialup, when you've just paid for a new toy) As someone who spent more than a few years in Q/A depts. I know, testing takes time and the pressure on to say 'tis not right, but will do' So here's to the sucess of Daz|Studio and may it spur Poser development.

Improvement means change. Change need not mean improvement.

I use Poser 12.0.757, 11.3 and or 2014, on Win10 64bit.