Well, if CL is going to dump P5 and go with this Shade thingie, yes indeed they'll lose market share. But we don't know for sure. I am as curious and hopeful as you all are, about Daz Studio. But you know, many of us Posers also work with another program, i.e., Vue d'esprit in its current 2 versions, or Bryce. I have become very dependent on Vue's tight integration with Poser. We lose that with Daz Studio. Of course I say that, but I'll still participate in the beta, and may even buy it when released... Norm