Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Too many girls?

dogsbody opened this issue on Dec 05, 2003 ยท 39 posts


Orio posted Fri, 05 December 2003 at 10:59 PM

I understand the problem of clothes and agree. But the problem is, if I want to make a scene with many characters, or a long story, I will have a hard time making out, say, a Helen of Troy who looks different from Athena who looks different from Juno who looks different from Venus... when ALL of them start from the same basic standard ideal of human female. And let's not talk about etnicity. It makes it even worse. A vicky with a black texture and morphs for black people's nose and lips is NOT and NEVER will be a real black woman. In the end, all stories made this way will communicate a sense of alienation and claustrophoby. How could it be differently, when all characters, Greek and Trojans, Carthaginenses and Romans, and Celts, they all basically look like they are bad attempt to mask their own nature of being CLONES of each other? Let's realize one things: morphs are not the magic wand. Morphs are DEPHORMERS. They DEFORM one shape, they do not craete another. Different shapes have their different harmonies. Morphing to mimick one shape from another most always turn out to be grotesque. Try it. Try to push a morph then another then another... you'll always end up with a grotesque result. Such are the fat people morphed out of an athletic Mike for instance. It's inevitable. It's like when with a sampler, you sample a tenor saxophone, then you play it two octaves up to mimick a soprano saxophone. It doesn't work. It does not sound like a soprano. It sounds like a tenor pretending to be a soprano. That's exactly how a fat morphed Mike looks like. It may be fine for caricatural and grotesque works but not all Poser users may like a grotesque style to their works. So no... for a SERIOUS work, more origin models are needed. Posette for isntance, she is VERY fine! She looks more female to me than all the vickies are. Vicky is like a young athlete not particualrly female. Posette has large thighs and is not so tall and has not all those perfect muscles. Unfortunately she's an old character, that's why I said we'd need a year 2004 Posette (meaning with more resolution). I want more figures like her, that are different, yet realistic. THere are so MANY different realistic body shapes. Just go to a beach in the summer. Not the high class fashionable beach where only nice young athletic youth goes. A normal beach with all sorts of people: old young, black, white, yellow, fat, thin, tall, dwarf. Look attentively how it's NOT a matter of "deforming" an ideal shape with morphs... it's about DIFFERENT shapes, with different proportions, different relative sizes and lenghts. World is DIFFERENCE. Life is DIFFERENCE. Why should a 3D software be IDENTITY if it has to attempt to realistically reproduce an image of our world?