The trick here was to convert an exagerated female form into a plausible male form, yet still keep the 'toon' style, and as much clothing crossover as possible. There is significant recaling of body parts, so "Simon" is a little taller than his sister. I"ll be supplying a MOR file as well for fast scaling changes to clothing items. To Tailor: set all morphs to zero. Delete all props (teeth, hairbase). Then Tailor sara's clothes to him. I have no clothing for Sara and never will, so I leave this as an exercise for the user. Modelers may feel free to make clothing for him specifically. The face had minimal work, just to set a base 'boy' face. I figure that other morph artists will make morphs for Sara and this way there shouldn't be too much conflict. The lips have been morphed some, but if I take them down any more the expression morphs are ...well ugly is too kind a word. There is light bodyhair all over, but I agree the chest hair is unneeded. I'll be revising Simon's textures, and posting him in Freestuff sometime today. Of course you'll have to have the original Sara installed, and he has no genitalia. Lyrra "Because I can" Madril