Misha - Tell me about it. I've had the Visual Studio .Net dvd since the beginning (I was a beta tester), but I still can't bring myself to use the thing. Half of me is enthralled with the .Net framework and the other half is screaming "God no! Isn't Gates deep enough in my computer as it is?!!" :) On this, my home system, I'm still using Visual Studio 6. I have .Net installed at work, but still find myself opening up and using VB6 far more often. -=>Donald