Thanks ronstuff - I take your point about the Poser Folder being at the top. Just one more thing. I'm now beginning to explore P4 <> P5 format conversions. A big frustration I have with the DAZ purchases, is the lack of P5 MAT files. Already, I can see such a welcome difference after converting many DAZ files to P5 format. However, the bump map is applied to the bump channel, and (eg) a P4 bump setting of 30 is translated to a value of 0.030000 in the material room, which does seem too high? I don't know if I'm either wishful thinking or missing something obvious here, but might it be possible to arrive at a sort of universally applicable algorithm which could be employed to translate/downgrade the bump settings for practical purposes. I've just been testing the ! V3MakeUpHi.pz2 MAT file, and the bump setting appears to be way too high. It would be great if I could run a batch conversion on all the DAZ products, which would result in ready to apply MAT poses?