I believe that beauty, like art, is very subjective. It's all a matter of opinion. I think Vickie is very pretty and I don't see any ugliness in her at all. She has a nice face and very versatile. I've made some cute Vickies, but I just haven't posted them. My personal opinion of Posette is that she looks too plastic. She looks more like a window mannekin or a Barbie doll rather than a live person. She's cute, but not very realistic. Vickie is much more realistic and lifelike. But then, thats only the way I see it. Everyone here probably see's all of the characters in as many different ways as there are members here in Renderosity. Melanie