Thank you everyone!! I tried to post a reply but when I hit the "post reply" button it keeps throwing me over to the master forum list, and my post goes floating off into cyberspace (I thought only msn did that :-/ ??) Everyone was right, I was just not seeing the true black and white untill I saw Guitta's tutorial and Sittingblue mentioned that my image had grey in it also. I finally got the results that I wanted! Thank you so much to everyone!! Good thing my motto is "To Live Is To Learn". Shiollie