quote from foleypro: "Also Being able to Model inside of Bryce using Nurbs and Low Poly methods AND I REPEAT and you need to be able to EXPORT the Models into any format available,THIS IS PARAMOUNT to Bryces succsess.." I have very mixed feelings about trying to make bryce a modeler. One of my biggest dissapointments about b5 was that instead of fixing the core issues, bells and whistles were tacked on that really were not needed. Bryce is a rendering engine/landscaper, and a very good one, at that. There is no need to waste resouses on trying to make bryce something it is not. Please, stick to the basics, improve what is already there. Poser 5 is a very good example of what NOT to do. Just my opinion.