I have been trying to work with the Dina mesh because of my frustration over the genital issue on V2. BTW this is essentially all the genital detail I'm after... it is a matter of principal. This is the basic Dina 1.2 with Sara morph .cr2 and Diane's magnets set. Maybe ten minutes of dial twerling. The Vena and Carmen varients seem to be a whole world different in terms of beauty not to mention the Dinaz zoftig but I don't have anymore mony to spend on bit stream. Dina has a problem head and sholders but the pelvis and lack of genitals on Victoria drive me nutty. PTVickki has a more realistic pelvic saddle but is useless for nude work being an imature model so whats the point? Judy has a nice womanly figure and genitals that are not purient and have not been the downfall of civilization that I know of. But I can not figure out how to reduce the breasts, trying to do anything with them seems to make them break up... there are no overall body morphs etc. Although the Judy default face is scary many nice ordinary faces seem to come out of the Face Room that look okay if you scale the head up.