Thanks SWAMP, I tried the demo for both of these programs and have the same opinion about them. I just needed input from other users as it is always wise to do so. I have Bryce 5 and love it. I was looking for a tool to add foilage into Terragen images and other images as well. As Terragen will not import this type of image I will have to rely on plugins. The search continues. :) thanks, BabaLouie